Comments on: Remove Unlawful Signs from Public Property http://actlocallysf.org/blog/petpeevesblog/2007/04/18/remove-unlawful-signs-from-public-property/ The ActLocallySF Pet Peeves Blog Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:00:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.0 by: Demi Monde http://actlocallysf.org/blog/petpeevesblog/2007/04/18/remove-unlawful-signs-from-public-property/#comment-547 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:13:33 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/petpeevesblog/2007/04/18/remove-unlawful-signs-from-public-property/#comment-547 On the one hand it's a nice relief to see someone recognise that corporate billboards can be ugly, too, not just graffiti. I note your post is written like a politician's spiel in a voter pamphlet. Are you related to the Feinstein we all know and...well, we all know OF... Also, I am curious as to which billboards are bothersome to you. You say they're in the way. Of what? Is it their content that bothers you or the billboardness itself no matter what is advertising there. I've got an intuition that perhaps I know which billboard in particular you are bothered by, so would you be so kind as to point it out? Finally, about your saying: <i>10) The law recognizes that these promotional signs visually pollute our urban landscape. Like litter and graffiti they are more intrusive then junk mail or Internet spam. Day after day they victimize the public by forcing them to live with degraded neighborhoods and thoroughfares. Furthermore they promote a perception that the laws protecting community can be disregarded with impunity. This fosters a sense of anything goes and no one cares, which other thoughtless people emulate thereby perpetuating and spreading blight and disorder, all of which is inconsistent with our community goals and aesthetic standards </i> Hold on - our? Who is the our you are speaking for? I know I'm sort of a lone wolf here, but that's because this blog is stacked against people who find too much order stifling, who find chaos healthy. There IS such a thing as a surfeit of either, both of which lead to entropy. The balance of chaos and order supports life. Order restricts, chaos frees. Restriction and freedom alike must be balanced for either to work in positive ways. <i> A sense of order is extremely important not only to those who live and work in a particular area, but equally to those traveling through on their way home, to shop, jobs, or simply taking in the urban landscape.</i> Beth, this is an opinion, not a fact. I enjoy chaos as long as it's not violent and doesn't pollute the planet with things that ruin air and water, upon which all life depends. That's not opinion, but fact. That I prefer a sound balance is also an opinion, but I speak only for myself. Why are you speaking for an entire city?<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 1</li> </ul> On the one hand it’s a nice relief to see someone recognise that corporate billboards can be ugly, too, not just graffiti.

I note your post is written like a politician’s spiel in a voter pamphlet. Are you related to the Feinstein we all know and…well, we all know OF…

Also, I am curious as to which billboards are bothersome to you. You say they’re in the way. Of what? Is it their content that bothers you or the billboardness itself no matter what is advertising there.

I’ve got an intuition that perhaps I know which billboard in particular you are bothered by, so would you be so kind as to point it out?

Finally, about your saying:

10) The law recognizes that these promotional signs visually pollute our urban landscape. Like litter and graffiti they are more intrusive then junk mail or Internet spam. Day after day they victimize the public by forcing them to live with degraded neighborhoods and thoroughfares. Furthermore they promote a perception that the laws protecting community can be disregarded with impunity. This fosters a sense of anything goes and no one cares, which other thoughtless people emulate thereby perpetuating and spreading blight and disorder, all of which is inconsistent with our community goals and aesthetic standards

Hold on - our? Who is the our you are speaking for?

I know I’m sort of a lone wolf here, but that’s because this blog is stacked against people who find too much order stifling, who find chaos healthy.

There IS such a thing as a surfeit of either, both of which lead to entropy. The balance of chaos and order supports life. Order restricts, chaos frees. Restriction and freedom alike must be balanced for either to work in positive ways.

A sense of order is extremely important not only to those who live and work in a particular area, but equally to those traveling through on their way home, to shop, jobs, or simply taking in the urban landscape.

Beth, this is an opinion, not a fact. I enjoy chaos as long as it’s not violent and doesn’t pollute the planet with things that ruin air and water, upon which all life depends. That’s not opinion, but fact. That I prefer a sound balance is also an opinion, but I speak only for myself. Why are you speaking for an entire city?

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