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		<title>by: rob bregoff</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-638</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wonder if the mayor has even read this document?
Density should follow transportation corridors.  Dense developments near transportation hubs should have reduced parking.
Transportation planning and residential planning should go hand in hand, and since there is little chance of new lanes in our already-at-capacity freeways, new developments need to be dense enough to support neighborhood-serving businesses.  Greenbelt Alliance strongly supports urban infill projects, and upzoning where it makes the most sense.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the mayor has even read this document?<br />
Density should follow transportation corridors.  Dense developments near transportation hubs should have reduced parking.<br />
Transportation planning and residential planning should go hand in hand, and since there is little chance of new lanes in our already-at-capacity freeways, new developments need to be dense enough to support neighborhood-serving businesses.  Greenbelt Alliance strongly supports urban infill projects, and upzoning where it makes the most sense.<br />
Rob B
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		<title>by: lik roper</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-615</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 12:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>in retrospect; let not human density impede our human destiny...&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;label&gt;Overall Rating&lt;/label&gt;: 10&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in retrospect; let not human density impede our human destiny&#8230;
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		<title>by: lik roper</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-614</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 03:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>and as for "Create boundaries for density, not just growth" - well, that can be interpreted as; anytime a developer comes into a neighborhood and intends to start a project that will inevitably ruin the quality of life of nearby residents through excess traffic messes, that developer should be LEGALLY REQUIRED to pay for PERMANENT traffic calming devices surrounding the new development to offset any influx of new unwanted traffic created thereof... 

i have no problem with people - 
i just dislike cars, that's all...&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;label&gt;Overall Rating&lt;/label&gt;: 1&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and as for &#8220;Create boundaries for density, not just growth&#8221; - well, that can be interpreted as; anytime a developer comes into a neighborhood and intends to start a project that will inevitably ruin the quality of life of nearby residents through excess traffic messes, that developer should be LEGALLY REQUIRED to pay for PERMANENT traffic calming devices surrounding the new development to offset any influx of new unwanted traffic created thereof&#8230; </p>
<p>i have no problem with people -<br />
i just dislike cars, that&#8217;s all&#8230;
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		<title>by: lik roper</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-612</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 16:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>one one hand; peaceful protest makes it easier for everybody (cops, protestors etc) but on the other hand; it makes it increasingly difficult for those you oppose...&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;label&gt;Overall Rating&lt;/label&gt;: 1&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one one hand; peaceful protest makes it easier for everybody (cops, protestors etc) but on the other hand; it makes it increasingly difficult for those you oppose&#8230;
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		<title>by: lik roper</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-611</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 15:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>if the US government knows you are willing to die (not kill in a foreign country through the state-sponsored terrorism of war) in order to further your goals, that is the scariest thing of all to them...

let them know that you would rather give your life than sit in their torture/jail cell and/or enter a courtroom on the defensive (for feeding ducks they gave you the approval to feed - for example) and they will back off, because; while the US government IS more often than not a big bunch of jerks, they are not THAT big of a bunch of jerks, and if you play your cards just right; you can often use this civilized mercy in your favor ...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the US government knows you are willing to die (not kill in a foreign country through the state-sponsored terrorism of war) in order to further your goals, that is the scariest thing of all to them&#8230;</p>
<p>let them know that you would rather give your life than sit in their torture/jail cell and/or enter a courtroom on the defensive (for feeding ducks they gave you the approval to feed - for example) and they will back off, because; while the US government IS more often than not a big bunch of jerks, they are not THAT big of a bunch of jerks, and if you play your cards just right; you can often use this civilized mercy in your favor &#8230;</p>
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		<title>by: lik roper</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-610</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 15:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>it's known as 'PEACEFUL TERRORISM'; the most dangerous thing of all...&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;label&gt;Overall Rating&lt;/label&gt;: 1&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s known as &#8216;PEACEFUL TERRORISM&#8217;; the most dangerous thing of all&#8230;
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		<title>by: lik roper</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-609</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 14:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>oh yes! and by the way SF chronicle; the word 'forcefully' was in no way a reference to the ELF and/or ALF (see postin #1 above) even though those group(s?) often simply mirror violence that occurs daily on the part of our oh-so-violent and corrupt federal government - so just relax!...

and if you take into consideration the massive bribery payoffs which occurred within US congress in the past few years; which led to all the highly illegal development (in wildlife zones etc); which led to all the pissed off protestors; using US government-like force to make their points, then...

it's like we're back to the 1960s again where 'the illuminati' controled our society and criminalized a bunch of people they purposefully radicalized...so who's fault is that, US government?...

anyway; this is PRECISELY why non-violent resistance is SO important; because when you resort to government-like violence instead of jesus/ghandi-like non-violence as an answer to your problems, they will ALWAYS overpower you with their 'substantiated' force...

(and if you piss of a cop; you get arrested - and if a cop pisses off you; you get arrested, so the only real answer is non-violent reistance)

when you follow the constitution and peacefully protest, this is the most insidious thing to the government; as the more civilized society becomes, the more it ties their hands and the more the will of the people has its' way...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yes! and by the way SF chronicle; the word &#8216;forcefully&#8217; was in no way a reference to the ELF and/or ALF (see postin #1 above) even though those group(s?) often simply mirror violence that occurs daily on the part of our oh-so-violent and corrupt federal government - so just relax!&#8230;</p>
<p>and if you take into consideration the massive bribery payoffs which occurred within US congress in the past few years; which led to all the highly illegal development (in wildlife zones etc); which led to all the pissed off protestors; using US government-like force to make their points, then&#8230;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s like we&#8217;re back to the 1960s again where &#8216;the illuminati&#8217; controled our society and criminalized a bunch of people they purposefully radicalized&#8230;so who&#8217;s fault is that, US government?&#8230;</p>
<p>anyway; this is PRECISELY why non-violent resistance is SO important; because when you resort to government-like violence instead of jesus/ghandi-like non-violence as an answer to your problems, they will ALWAYS overpower you with their &#8217;substantiated&#8217; force&#8230;</p>
<p>(and if you piss of a cop; you get arrested - and if a cop pisses off you; you get arrested, so the only real answer is non-violent reistance)</p>
<p>when you follow the constitution and peacefully protest, this is the most insidious thing to the government; as the more civilized society becomes, the more it ties their hands and the more the will of the people has its&#8217; way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>by: lik roper</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-606</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>the good side of overpopulation is; more women...&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;label&gt;Overall Rating&lt;/label&gt;: 1&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the good side of overpopulation is; more women&#8230;
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		<title>by: lik roper</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-605</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 17:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>it's no surprise that a beautiful landlocked region like SF is so densely packed at this point in history - and this is largely why SF is a gay capitol much like britain; because homosexuals generally cannot and/or do not reproduce at the same rate as heterosexuals ('unchecked' reproduction requires lots of land and/or 'human habitat')

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s no surprise that a beautiful landlocked region like SF is so densely packed at this point in history - and this is largely why SF is a gay capitol much like britain; because homosexuals generally cannot and/or do not reproduce at the same rate as heterosexuals (&#8217;unchecked&#8217; reproduction requires lots of land and/or &#8216;human habitat&#821 <img src='http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>by: lik roper</title>
		<link>http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/05/24/neither-too-slow-nor-too-smart-contemplating-the-growth-of-the-bay-region/#comment-603</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>first off; very carefully go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redevelopment 

then; very forcefully go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_protection

then give some serious consideration to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_out_of_the_box&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;label&gt;Overall Rating&lt;/label&gt;: 10&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first off; very carefully go to: <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redevelopment' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redevelopment</a> </p>
<p>then; very forcefully go to: <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_protection' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_protection</a></p>
<p>then give some serious consideration to:<br />
<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_out_of_the_box' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_out_of_the_box</a>
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