Comments on: Creating a Digital Community http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/ Join the Debate! Read and comment on articles posted on actlocallysf.org. Fri, 16 May 2008 23:37:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.0 by: Allison_ed2@yahoo.com Ed http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-785 Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:22:32 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-785 Thank goodness wi-fi is down. May wiser heads prevail in the future.<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 1</li> </ul> Thank goodness wi-fi is down. May wiser heads prevail in the future.
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]]> by: Allison_ed2@yahoo.com Ed http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-784 Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:19:40 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-784 Whew, heard the news that wi-fi is on hold! What a relief, hopefully wiser heads will prevail in the long run. I am less concerned with elite noodle-heads wasting money than I am with the safety and security of people who live in SF. Beaming the city with Wi-fi is technologically inefficient... Even the Main Library can't keep a consistant signal for wi-fi using a local base station. The hot spots in town are spotty; don't try to download. Wi-fi as a benefit for the poor was bull. The poor don't have adequate computers.<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 1</li> </ul> Whew, heard the news that wi-fi is on hold! What a relief, hopefully wiser heads will prevail in the long run. I am less concerned with elite noodle-heads wasting money than I am with the safety and security of people who live in SF. Beaming the city with Wi-fi is technologically inefficient… Even the Main Library can’t keep a consistant signal for wi-fi using a local base station. The hot spots in town are spotty; don’t try to download. Wi-fi as a benefit for the poor was bull. The poor don’t have adequate computers.
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]]> by: Jeff S http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-762 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:33:46 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-762 re: Jennifer Lee Sorry to say, but San Franciso has many thousands of Wi-Fi nodes and Wi-Fi enabled computers all emitting radio frequency electromagnetic waves. Not to mention cell phones, microwave ovens, automobiles, FM radio, television, etc. EM radiation is already "permanent and prevalent" in every major city in the world. I'd suggest you find a nice secluded rural farm and move there. Land is cheap in Iowa, I hear.<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 1</li> </ul> re: Jennifer Lee

Sorry to say, but San Franciso has many thousands of Wi-Fi nodes and Wi-Fi enabled computers all emitting radio frequency electromagnetic waves. Not to mention cell phones, microwave ovens, automobiles, FM radio, television, etc. EM radiation is already “permanent and prevalent” in every major city in the world. I’d suggest you find a nice secluded rural farm and move there. Land is cheap in Iowa, I hear.

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]]> by: Jennifer Lee http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-745 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:54:46 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-745 I support free public wi-fi in San Francisco; however, is anyone concerned about the potential risk of instating a permanent and prevalent network of electromagnetic waves throughout our city? Researchers have been warning against the harm of cell phone, laptop and wi-fi signals for years. Now recent studies reveal that these early warnings were perhaps valid. http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/58354/ I'm not saying this is a reason to revoke the wi-fi plan, but is the city taking this long-term health concern into account?<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 7</li> </ul> I support free public wi-fi in San Francisco; however, is anyone concerned about the potential risk of instating a permanent and prevalent network of electromagnetic waves throughout our city? Researchers have been warning against the harm of cell phone, laptop and wi-fi signals for years. Now recent studies reveal that these early warnings were perhaps valid. http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/58354/

I’m not saying this is a reason to revoke the wi-fi plan, but is the city taking this long-term health concern into account?

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]]> by: Jeff S http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-744 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:17:39 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-744 Looks like Meraki is doing and end run around Gavins' plans. They may completely cover the city with Wi-Fi before the city even moves. http://sf.meraki.net/ http://sf.meraki.net/overview<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 1</li> </ul> Looks like Meraki is doing and end run around Gavins’ plans. They may completely cover the city with Wi-Fi before the city even moves.

http://sf.meraki.net/
http://sf.meraki.net/overview

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]]> by: Allison_ed2@yahoo.com Ed http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-738 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:03:52 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-738 Children being used as 'guinea pigs' in mass Wi-Fi experiment, warn teachers The use of wireless computer networks in classrooms should be immediately suspended until an inquiry has fully investigated the health threat to millions of pupils, a teachers' chief urged yesterday. Philip Parkin, the General Secretary of the Professional Association of Teachers, said that children were effectively acting as guinea pigs because the risk posed by 'wi-fi' networks had not yet been thoroughly considered. He said scientific evidence prompted him to question the safety of the systems already introduced in 15,000 schools across the UK. For the rest of the article go to: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=472357&in_page_id=1965 Will anyone scientific in San Francisco please step up and explore this issue please... we must b e prudent.<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 1</li> </ul> Children being used as ‘guinea pigs’ in mass Wi-Fi experiment, warn teachers

The use of wireless computer networks in classrooms should be immediately suspended until an inquiry has fully investigated the health threat to millions of pupils, a teachers’ chief urged yesterday.

Philip Parkin, the General Secretary of the Professional Association of Teachers, said that children were effectively acting as guinea pigs because the risk posed by ‘wi-fi’ networks had not yet been thoroughly considered.

He said scientific evidence prompted him to question the safety of the systems already introduced in 15,000 schools across the UK.

For the rest of the article go to: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=472357&in_page_id=1965

Will anyone scientific in San Francisco please step up and explore this issue please… we must b e prudent.

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]]> by: lik roper http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-717 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:03:06 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-717 Allison_ed2@yahoo.com has a good point, so is anyone listening? - www.likroper.com<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 10</li> </ul> Allison_ed2@yahoo.com has a good point, so is anyone listening? - www.likroper.com
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]]> by: Allison_ed2@yahoo.com Ed http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-714 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:23:37 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-714 Public Television should do more than sell wi-fi, it should investigate and educate around the issue. Last night (7/16) on KQED channel 10, there was a program that presented wi-fi as a done deal and better than sliced bread for San Franciscans. Ridiculous blatant propaganda, "BRAINWASHING" people by framing the issue to the will of corporations and their crony politicians. It is another example of abusive, controlling media and why we should not entrust them with our health and safety.<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 1</li> </ul> Public Television should do more than sell wi-fi, it should investigate and educate around the issue. Last night (7/16) on KQED channel 10, there was a program that presented wi-fi as a done deal and better than sliced bread for San Franciscans. Ridiculous blatant propaganda, “BRAINWASHING” people by framing the issue to the will of corporations and their crony politicians. It is another example of abusive, controlling media and why we should not entrust them with our health and safety.
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]]> by: Allison_ed2@yahoo.com Ed http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-713 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:14:18 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-713 Article on Wi-fi safety and children in UK http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article2771019.ece Wi-Fi backlash: Councils urge caution on networks in schools Labour and Liberal Democrat councillors issue call for embargo in response to parents' concerns over children's exposure to radiation in the classroom By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor Published: 15 July 2007 Local councillors are pressing for the suspension of the use of Wi-Fi in schools, in the first official revolt in Britain against the widespread use of the technology in the classroom. The powerful overview and scrutiny committee (OSC) of Haringey council in London resolved this month that there should be "a precautionary approach" to Wi-Fi because of concerns about risks to the health of children and teachers. With cross-party agreement, it recommended that no new Wi-Fi systems be installed and that existing ones should be discontinued pending "full consultation with parents and staff". The recommendation was last week welcomed as "excellent news" by the Professional Association of Teachers, which believes the "proliferation" of networks in schools "could be having serious implications for the health of some staff and pupils". In a separate development, Camarthenshire County Council's education and children's scrutiny committee called on its officers to draw up "a good practice guide" on how the technology should be used in schools. The councils' moves follow a call by Sir William Stewart, chairman of the Health Protection Agency, for a review of the use of Wi-Fi in the classroom. His concerns about possible damage to health from the radiation it emits were first reported by The Independent on Sunday in April and later followed up by the BBC's Panorama.<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 1</li> </ul> Article on Wi-fi safety and children in UK
http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article2771019.ece
Wi-Fi backlash: Councils urge caution on networks in schools
Labour and Liberal Democrat councillors issue call for embargo in response to parents’ concerns over children’s exposure to radiation in the classroom
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
Published: 15 July 2007
Local councillors are pressing for the suspension of the use of Wi-Fi in schools, in the first official revolt in Britain against the widespread use of the technology in the classroom.

The powerful overview and scrutiny committee (OSC) of Haringey council in London resolved this month that there should be “a precautionary approach” to Wi-Fi because of concerns about risks to the health of children and teachers.

With cross-party agreement, it recommended that no new Wi-Fi systems be installed and that existing ones should be discontinued pending “full consultation with parents and staff”. The recommendation was last week welcomed as “excellent news” by the Professional Association of Teachers, which believes the “proliferation” of networks in schools “could be having serious implications for the health of some staff and pupils”.

In a separate development, Camarthenshire County Council’s education and children’s scrutiny committee called on its officers to draw up “a good practice guide” on how the technology should be used in schools.

The councils’ moves follow a call by Sir William Stewart, chairman of the Health Protection Agency, for a review of the use of Wi-Fi in the classroom. His concerns about possible damage to health from the radiation it emits were first reported by The Independent on Sunday in April and later followed up by the BBC’s Panorama.

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]]> by: loharob http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-704 Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:57:35 +0000 http://actlocallysf.org/blog/topic/2007/07/08/creating-a-digital-community/#comment-704 This isn't a plan to "create a digital community," it's just more PR blather from our mostly innefectual mayor and his rich friends at Google. This giveaway would create a slow, sub-standard wireless network that wouldn't be of much use to most of us. There are lots of reasons to have a city-wide wireless utility, but there are also lots of better ones than the Google/Earthlink boondoggle.<ul><li><label>Overall Rating</label>: 1</li> </ul> This isn’t a plan to “create a digital community,”
it’s just more PR blather from our mostly innefectual mayor and his rich friends at Google. This giveaway would create a slow, sub-standard wireless network that wouldn’t be of much use to most of us. There are lots of reasons to have a city-wide wireless utility, but there are also lots of better ones than the Google/Earthlink boondoggle.
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